Comment in Support of Tim Holland’s Family
Story Created: June 4, 2007
I just love it when people come to this blog for Ricky and feel it necessary to leave a comment in support of the murderer’s family. I love it because it gives me the opportunity to create a blog entry from that comment.
Following is the comment from Susie as well as my short response.
I like how all of you people think you know everything. I personally know Tim Holland’s family and they are not the monsters you make them out to be. They did know to an extent of what was going on with Ricky and they did go to other sources for help. Remember a lot happens behind closed doors that know one knows. A lot of children are abused behind closed doors but it is not always seen and parents (yes, Tim and Lisa) are capable of making everything seem like all is well. Plus, remember there can be monsters in families who just scare the heck out of you and you avoid them. So stop trying to act like you know everything and condeming everyone. Work on getting the system fixed and say prayers. I will tell you that the kids in care of the Holland family are perfectly safe and taken care of.
Well, Susie@yahoo.com, I am certainly surprised you would stick your neck out and even admit you know let alone stand up for Tim Holland’s family. I could have decided to not approve your comment simply because I did not want to see the attack on you to take place. I changed my mind and have decided not only to approve your comment but to create a blog entry out of it so that people can read your defense of the Holland family.
So what are YOU doing to get the system fixed in Michigan so that people like the Holland’s and the Taylor’s cannot get anymore children to abuse and murder. Oh, you are in charge of praying.
OK everyone, what do you think of Susie’s spin on the innocence of the Holland family relatives? Do you think that Ricky’s remaining siblings are perfectly safe and taken care of? What are you going to do to work on the system getting fixed?
Trisha
9 Responses to 'Comment in Support of Tim Holland’s Family'
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Not Only do I NOT feel better about where My Niece and Nephews Are.. But Admitting you KNEW of the Abuse and just simply Supposdly Went To theProper Ppl? Well What you Should have Done is take the Kids to the Hospital.. and if that didnt Work Or COULDNT work and you are a holland Family Member then you should have Sued them for CUSTODY to get them babies outta HARMs way my Nephew’s life Was Cut Short because Of Tim and Lisa .. So NO I wont Have compassion For them and NO I wont stop Condeming Them.. LIsa MURDERED my Nephew WHILE TIM WATCH AND HID HIS BODY!! .. and you Ask me to Forgive and Forget.. HA wont happen for a LONG LONG Time…
Casandra
5 Jun 07 at 4:37 pm
i dont think none of my children are safe they need to be taken from them and givin to me or to some one in my family
casey
5 Jun 07 at 7:05 pm
It’s amazing how Susie wants us to accept the “innocence” of the other Holland family members! In the very strictest sense they are innocent of a crime, but their collective souls/conscience are stained with this child’s murder. Susie states that they had their “suspicions” but were afraid of Lisa….well I suspect that they, like Lisa and Tim, will one day answer for their sins. They’re almost worse than Lisa and Tim because of the way they handled their suspicions. There are sometimes two kinds of “right”-legal and moral, and while the remainder of the Holland family may be legally right, they suffer a severe shortage of the moral kind!
Anna
7 Jun 07 at 10:52 am
Anna, very well said.
I was at the trial and spoke to one of the sisters, she said that she never seen the kids because they were not allowed over there (Tim and Lisa’s home). But, susie, you are saying that they knew of something going on and they did nothing? Susie, you really don’t know these people like you say you do. For you to stick up for someone that knew that a defenseless child was being abused, and did nothing – how could they sleep and live day-to-day?
I am not happy that they are in the care of the Hollands, I have expressed this to Mr. Dunnings. In a sense, you could say they were responsible for the death of this child.
Susie, you need to wake up. Do you have a child?
caring
9 Jun 07 at 12:22 am
I wonder if anyone read the Free Press today, it had a small article to the fact that 3 appeals judges upheld the decision of the judge to terminate Lisa Holland’s parental rights. Victory here. These judges would have to both blind and deaf to do anything else.
Another thing Susie should think about, is the fact that as long as these children are being raised by family of Tim Holland’s, there will a connection to Tim. This really bothers me.
Susie, where were you in defense of Tim and Lisa when the trial was going on?
caring
10 Jun 07 at 12:31 am
Oh susie, how is the sand? Quit the proverbial ostrich bit and pull your head out! Tim and Lisa are monsters through and through. Anyone willing to defend them are right there with them.
I had a tough time verbally reprimanding my kids when they were Rickys age let alone raising my hand to them.
Think it through Susie. Think about the hammer. Think about little Ricky’s skull being crushed. Think of the pain he indured. Think about Tim dumping his lifeless little body off and then just walking away. The remaining kids should go to a whole new enviroment, family….hell even another state. Start over. Your lousy family will just stand ad a reminder for them.
By the way, I am adopted. I was adopted by a loving, nurturing and caring family.
Laura
10 Jun 07 at 12:44 pm
I think that the what those people did is awful , regardless of who used the weapon. This poor kid was taken from one home because of issues there and moved into a place much much worse…The childrens aid people need to be more thorough when conducting research on who they are giving these poor children to. I hope the hollands suffer the rest of their lives and never see a moments peace. I sincerely hope that Lisa suffers more pain than that poor little boy. Someone should take a hammer to her disgusting head
Amalia
21 Jun 07 at 1:28 pm
Who is Susie?
I don’t know who she is. She stopped by here and left a comment a few weeks ago in support of Tim Holland’s family.
caring
29 Jun 07 at 2:30 am
Well, I was trying to be nice and try to be helpful but since you insist on being ignorant I will continue. First of all I never said I was in charge of praying. Second of all if this wonderful birth mother wasn’t a CRACK WHORE WHO MARRIED A CONVICTED PEDIPHILE, maybe poor Ricky would have had a chance. Maybe if these good for nothing birth recepticles could stop drinking and doing drugs and cross their legs and think of what they might be doing we wouldn’t have the problems of unwanted children. So many children born just because mommy wanted to get her ya-ya’s off and then we have to pay for it. Dear God, please keep abortion legal and lower the price so I don’t have to pay with my taxes for unwanted kids. How’s that.
I thought in the Bible through Jesus we were supposed to forgive others and not repeatedly cast stones? What would Jesus do? Would Jesus continue to be mean and hateful to others? (And, no I am not a religious person so don’t even try that. I just want to know where you get off being so hateful. Didn’t Jesus preach forgiveness and let God do the judging?)
And whether I have a child is no of your business. Just because I know someone does not mean that I’m going to murder my child if I have one. What kind of thinking is that?
Susie,
I don’t know how you could consider your comments as either nice or helpful when stated in the comment section of a blog totally devoted to the wrongful murder of an innocent child. And then you go on to attack the birth mother. Your words are less than kind and even less than judgmental.
If you knew the whole story of how Ricky came to the Holland House of Horrors you would know that Casey could not care for Ricky at the time he was placed. She asked for help and support from FYI and in the end her rights were terminated. Remember, Casey was never accused of or found guilty of physical abuse or even mistreatment of ANY of her children. Her only crime was being young, undereducated, poor, and with a lack of parental support.
I have never met Casey or Tim and Lisa Holland. I do know one thing for sure. In the pictures of Casey, I saw the pain in her eyes of a mother whose child was murdered. I also saw the crocodile tears shed by Tim Holland trying to save his own sorry ass from a hefty prison sentence. I also saw Lisa Holland’s cold stare during her trial. The only time she cried was when the judge told her she will spend the remainder of her sorry life behind bars.
Susie, don’t come back here and spew your hatred for the less fortunate in society. If you support Tim Holland and his family go open your own blog and spew that nonsense there.
If you continue to spew your hatred here your comments will no longer be approved.
Trisha
Susie
10 Jul 07 at 2:52 am